《2018 Wey VV5 and VV7 quick drives》(caradvice)
《2018 快速试驾 Wey vv5和vv7》（澳大利亚汽车评测网站 caradvice）
Haval’s premium division, Wey, has produced a pair of startlingly attractive crossovers called the VV5 and VV7 for China, with an eye to export. It’s a notable first attempt, demonstrating how much the world’s biggest car market has matured.
Haval的高级部门Wey为中国生产了一对极具吸引力的 crossovers VV5和VV7，着眼于出口。这是一个值得注意的第一次尝试，展示了这个世界上最大的汽车市场已经成熟了多少。
It was bound to happen. A few prominent Chinese carmakers were eventually going to set themselves apart with premium-feeling product.
Most notable is the fact that the Wey VV5 and VV7 crossovers discussed here come from a brand – Great Wall Motors (GWM) – that has eschewed a joint-venture with a famous western company, avoiding the shortcut taken by rivals such as SAIC (owner of MG, LDV) and Geely (Lynk & Co, Volvo).
最值得注意的是，这里讨论的Wey VV5和VV7来自一个品牌 – 长城汽车（GWM） – 它已经避开了与一家著名的西方公司的合资企业，避免了像SAIC这样的竞争对手所采取的捷径。MG，LDV）和吉利（Lynk＆Co，沃尔沃）。
The Wey luxury brand is important to GWM, which sells more than a million Haval SUVs and Great Wall pick-ups in China each year, and which is investing substantial sums in domestic and international R&D, production and sales.
Not only does it aim to steal sales from the Germans and ‘Tier 1’ Japanese such as Lexus, it’s named in honour of the company’s founder Wei Jianjun (yes, the spelling is different), who started the company from scratch and apparently still lives in a small apartment despite a billion-dollar bank account.
Eponymous auto brands are traditionally not done in China, according to our hosts, who recently took us to a new Wey dealership on the outskirts of Beijing, following our visit to the vast Auto China motor show earlier in the same week.
The dealer site is new and formidable. It’s obvious why GWM wanted to show the media. Huge, spotless and tasteful. Service customers can sit in a shiatsu massage chair and have lunch while they wait. Wey has clearly looked to Lexus when it comes to customer care, and wealthy Chinese buyers are becoming ever more demanding.
Tezan CezayBarnyardG : They aren’t original (there’s styling elements stolen from other brands of course) but I personally think that they look fantastic. I can’t help but think this is what Mazda’s next design language should have looked like. Keep it up and bring Wey here – they are FAR more attractive than the other Chinese cars on our roads.
Speedz : What do you mean stolen? You mean they kidnap Pierre Leclercq and his design team?
Aus_poppaWillie : In a sense this conversation is hilarious. I am old enough to remember that in 1964 I induced a friend to try a new car called a Toyota Corona, at a time when most people thought that the Japanese industry was only capable of making copies of prewar Austins. The Corona went into assembly in Port Melbourne and the rest is history. A few decades later most people scoffed at a strange brand called Hyundai that people said would never sell. Now all our cars are imported, and the Chinese are coming – big time. Have you noticed how LDV vans made by SAIC are eating into the Hyundai iLoad market, which ate a lot of the Toyota commercial range.As I type this there is an ad for LDV on the screen. And have you seen the Haval ads on TV?Moral of the story – things change and within a very few years Australians will be buying Chinese built cars – lots of themI can remember all of that.Sadly, the things that don”t seem to change, are stupidity, and bigotry.Hmm imho the Chinese marques still lack a he
FlamenwerferFlauschi : What donkey could think that there was no interesting car news from the country that makes more cars than the USA Japan and Germany combined! If you think that the Chinese car industry has no plans for global expansion you’ve got you head in a place it shouldn’t be. They’re hardly going to announce anything before they have all the ducks lined up.
FlauschieTezan Cezay : You did notice that the Chinese manufacturers have already tried to exstablish themselves in western markets and they failed miserably? Eventually they will succeed but the time hasn’t come yet.I think that’s the point.
Willie : Hmm imho the Chinese marques still lack a hell of a lot of technology, especially in ICE vehicles. When Japan went into the car making game cars were relatively simple so it was somewhat less of a steep learning curve. Toyota et al. were able to make decent vehicles with small engines to export. Added to this, Japan had good component makers like Denso, Aisin for transmission etc.Currently I think no Chinese make has designed a world class engine or transmission, most are bolt ons off shelf from Western and Japanese suppliers. Electric Vehicles may provide a much better opportunity but they still need to master components.
Jake Frederics : Both Haval and this “Wey” are making impressive cars.
VimFuego : The Aussie car industry is in a race to the bottom with ‘premium’ brands too expensive due to government robbery in duties, taxes etc and the mid range is being chopped off at knees with more of these unknown China cars landing here that are only attractive because of price.
Lachlan : These guys really are not stuffing around with cars like this. Design, fit and finish look to be streaking ahead, and having seen a couple of Havals tootling around I think the Wey would certainly sell.
YanzoDaDon : I like the wey they styled it.
Tezan CezayMikka : The brown seats and claret carpet combo is a bold choice.A friend of mine went to China on business and was aghast to see that they mix Grange with coke as it’s not sweet enough for them – claret and brown…
Buck : It’s even got rear air vents!!! Hope they smash their stingy competitors
: Lets hope they don’t use ancient Mitsubishi engines like the Haval SUVs
Ranil IllesingheJPRa : No Wey – that beltline is ridiculous.Mind you, it seems like almost every SUV design is doing this these days – creating a claustrophobic environment for rear seat passengers and a massive blind spot for the driver – all in the name of current fashion.The smaller windows also help with rollover tests and side impact testsIs that really the case
Ranil IllesingheBarn : Is that really the case?If it is, that’s really sad – sacrificing active safety so that a vehicle scores better in passive safety.Chrysler are on record saying they deliberately made the PT Cruiser windows smaller to make occupants ‘feel’ safer.*Facepalm*But it makes sense – SUVs riding higher than standard passenger cars makes people FEEL safer too – even though raising the centre of gravity has the opposite effect in reality.Pretty much. Think about how much smaller the glass house of cars have gotten since 2000 and the thicker C pillars too
Ranil Illesinghe :SUVs riding higher than standard passenger cars makes people FEEL safer too – even though raising the centre of gravity has the opposite effect in reality.
Flauschie : Well, they just need to follow Kia – thus hiring western designers. Chinese (and Korean) design doesn’t go anywhere on the world market. They will struggle to repeat other success stories though. Labour costs have a share of only up to 20% in the car price. A price advantage max 20% isn’t overly significant. Of course, if you can save more with lesser environmental standards as well as gov subsidies … which are further cards that China has played in the past.
JP : Yes indeed. And these cars look good!
Cher : im interested in chinese cars today
David LaFleur : but if the price is right some or even many will be interested m***n. You don’t represent the whole country.
HotshotBen Huangdest : Make no mistake – China is coming in a very, very big way, and will be absolutely relevant to Australia.I, for one, want to see MORE coverage of the Chinese automotive industry. Frankly – a lot of the news around their investment in electrification specifically is exciting.You might not have, or only vaguely, heard of a raft of companies – BYD, Chery, Dongfeng, Geely, Wei, Baojun, Great Wall, Borgward, Jianjeng, Brilliance, Zotye, GAC, SAIC, BAIC, Changan … (and their myriad of sub-brands) – but I’ve no doubt we will be hearing more from many of them.
: I think the Better get used to it. There’s gonna be wey more coming.
PhilBarnyardGambler : You are correct. What people don’t understand is the link between the push to EV and the inevitable place in the market that will give Chinese car makers. Put simply, the supply chain for electric is controlled largely by Chinese interests, and I mean up to 75% of it. It’s the reason for so many partnerships by western carmakers with Chinese firms for electric vehicles.We may never become familiar with the brands, but the products we buy will be influenced by the partnership arrangements.
BarnyardGambler : Once the Chinese have the Western secrets, they simply kick the Westerners out. That’s page one of their play book.
Jake Frederics : Speak for yourself. Brand means nothing to me, a car is just a machine. Give me a good value proposition and a car that feels better than average in the interior and I will buy it.
RobRobRobRobRobRanil : So you are comparing a product of Great Wall, a multinational auto manufacutrer that has had prsesence in Australia for years, to some unknown Russian vehicle whose manufacturer has zero presence outside their home turf with no plans to launch anything here in future.
Mike Stevens : Our goal has always been to drive as many cars as we can get into, because it gives us the broadest possible knowledge of what’s out there, and how it compares to what’s on offer in Australia. There’s wisdom in being widely read, and there’s wisdom in experiencing as much of the automotive sphere as we can.The reason we include these Chinese cars that won’t be sold here is because Chinese cars are becoming more common on Australian roads and will likely be very common in the decades ahead. So why shouldn’t readers and buyers have an opportunity to