For reimbursable drugs, China’s policy is centralized government procurement. The government first negotiates with the pharmaceutical companies to buy and deliver to the hospital at the lowest price, and for the companies, access to the government procurement catalogue means a steady stream of sales and revenue (albeit at a low unit price)
Great to see Lee making videos again and hope it continues, with more travelling soon. I've been to hospital 3 times in China. 1st time was with food poisoning and they put me in a bed straight away, at around 4.00a.m and put me on a drip and I was OK next day. Not that great ward, with mosquitoes and primitive toilet, but bearable. 2nd and 3rd time I went to a general hospital and saw a dr straight away, had blood tests and X Rays, with results within a few minutes, then went back to the dr, who gave me a prescription to get Chinese medicine-total time there about 45 minutes and cost about £3-both times.
The doctors will get the results through online digital system at the first time. They read your results on computer. At the same time, the departments of different tests informed you to collect the results as well. The hard copy of test results took by patiences, the reason is for keeping a physical document themselves. If they want to consult with different doctors in another hospital, they can bring these material to describe their current health conditions and previous healthcare suggestions with these tests results.
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The UK's NHS has gone downhill rapidly. I have 3 relatives in the NHS, 2 pathologists and another I cannot reveal as there are only a few of them in the NHS and easily identified. In pathology, there's chronic understaffing. They are so stressed and pressured that you have to wonder if accurate diagnosis can be asked of them. 2-3mins per slide! It's crazy. It's unpaid overtime most of the time. The NHS pension system is so ridiculous that if you earn over limit, you actually start losing money! So they are resigning and working outside the grade. In fact, they are thinking of working as locums which will take the pressure off, but cost the NHS more. Apparently, it's the same in other specialities. It's so bad they have banned their offsprings from taking up a medical career.
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Wishing you a speedy recovery. YOU GOT THE POWER, LEE.
It is very true that China is still developing. I believe that if we develop to the level of developed countries, everyone will be able to get treatment. Of course, I don’t want to develop into free treatment, because we cannot raise lazy people in China, but I still hope that everyone will work hard to improve their lives.
There is a type of hospitalization called "full care", which means that the hospital will fully take care of the patient after discussion, including food, clothing, cleaning, and so on, but this is a fee for the services of a health care provider, not a medical fee and means high costs as well, which are usually not covered by health insurance, so family care means less cost.
In China, you can also ask a caregiver to take care of you, but most Chinese think that only family care can make the patient feel more comfortable, so normally, patients will be taken care of by a family or a friend. And most hospitals provide food if you want. But most Chinese think the food hospital provides is not delicious or nutritious， so the family will provide food themselves...
Totally agree with you. In china, too many many people, and still many issues. but get better and better.
Having had some minor medical treatment in China, what you say is very much in line with my experience. I did financially help with cost of treatment of my niece’s daughter when she fell and broke her leg. So good to see her running around when I was next in China
There will be differences everywhere. Just be glad you are not in the US. And glad to see you doing well.
That's just the experience I had, when I needed treatment in China for getting knocked off my motorcycle in China.
The speed of getting things done, x-rays, physio, blood tests, all done same day.
To be honest, I would prefer treatment in China than UK.
I live in Melbourne, Australia and I had gone to the hospital for serveral times here. Right after I born my baby, they did a surgery on me because some part of my placenta didn't came out. But one month later, i got very heavy bleeding and was sent to the emergency. I lost 2L blood and almost lost my conscious, but they made me wait there for more than an hour because there was no surgeon available. After my second surgery, they said it should be fine now as they took another part of placenta out. But a few hours later, I told them I was bleeding again. At first, the nurse said it's not bleeding a lot, so I had to wait until I bled a lot to get the third surgery. When I woke up, I was in intensive care. The only thing I was glad was I was still alive. They said several experienced specialists attend my surgery and they took out another piece of placenta. After these three surgeries, I got a lot of blood transfer and stayed in hospital for a long time. That was very bad and horrible memory. BTW, this hospital is Australia's first and leading specialist hospital for the health and wellbeing of women and newborn. So I would rather prefer speed and experience.
The cost of illness in China is high, but fortunately, the country’s centralized procurement has drastically reduced medical expenses. China has also universalized medical insurance, including rural areas, and only pays 300 RMB (50 US dollars) per year
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In HK, public hospitals come with simple and basic meals when hospitalized, however, private hospitals don't include meals. they will have menu for you to order with extra cost.
I think this is one of the best comparisons I've heard over the healthcare system between China and the UK. Buddy, I wish you a speedy recovery and look forward to seeing you as always
In 2020 with corvib19, a lot of elective surgeries, tests and procedures were canceled in Canadian hospitals. Now there's a hugh backlog. You need to wait a very long time. In China it's very fast. That's major difference now.
Great to see you looking better each new video I think that the level of care seems to be better in China at least they seem more on the ball and they don't mind if you want a second opinion and go to another doctor unlike my doctor. I went to my GP/doctor about 2 years ago about blood when I went to the toilet and he examined me and just passed it off as a polyp nothing to worry about, later that year I developed diverticulitis and had to go and have a scan unfortunately I was too ill to have the procedure, I then had to wait nearly 7 months before I could get another scan appointment and when they did the scan they saw the so called harmless polyp and because it was bleeding so much they took a biopsy. It turns out it was cancerous, I had bowel cancer. Thankfully once they diagnosed it as cancer within a couple of weeks I was in hospital and had the operation to remove it and I am cancer free now.
Hope you are having speedy recovery. I think this has been my experience with australia health care system and china health care system as well. At the end of the day, ppl need to pay a bit more attention to their health.
Hi Lee, Its good to see that your energy level is up and you are recovering well. Here's wishing you get well soon
Chinese people are some of the most health conscious people i know.. not just in China.. go to any parks or any open spaces in Asian cities from Singapore to Thailand you will see dozens of people doing their dancing routine or tai chi exercise.. they just don't want to be a burden to their family if you fall seriously ill.. you should have also mentioned Chinese traditional medicines that play a big part in supporting the modern medicines as we know it.. but i think not to far from now you could get an AI consultation at an instants.. pascal Coppens did a video on AI consultation a whilst back.. worth checking out..
It is Lee's very good and comprehensive comparisons between the health systems of China and the UK. Only one thing he did not say is that the National Insurance contribution and heavy tax systems in the UK although can provide a good health service by the NHS but discourage the people who work hard while encourage the other people who do not want to work. Some people just rely on free health services and social benefits that they do not take care of their health. As a result, the free health system is being abused and keeps causing financial burden to the government. To increase the government's income the only way is to either increase the tax or cut the other spendings in order to save money.